Stevan Harnad wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Peter Banks wrote:
CG:
Apart from the few giant journals who
hire and
house full time editors, peer review
is conducted entirely by the
academic community itself, at its own
time and expense.
PB:
Most society journals are not giant, do not have
full time editors, but
instead support at considerable cost editorial
offices in major
universities.
Until that fact is recognized--and OA advocates
cease and desist with the
nonsense that peer review is free--there can be
no intelligent discussion.
Peter, you replied to the easier posting first. Chris Green
mis-spoke
(though his point is basically right): All peer-reviewed
journals, great
or small, incur some expense in managing (not actually
performing) peer
review. But it is an incontestable fact that the peers who
review, review
for free. The in-house editors are *managing* the peer
review; they are
deciding and advising and editing, but they are not the peer
reviewers.
(If they were, it would not even really be peer review, but
an in-house
vanity press.)
In small journals (which is the vast majority of them), the publisher has
no hand in the management of peer review at all. As editor, I receive the
submissions, I contact the reviewers, I send the submission to the
reviewers, I bug the reviewers when they haven't sent the reviews in on
time, I receive the reviews, I read the reviews, I file the reviews, I
decide which paper goes into the journal on the basis of the reviews. The
publisher has no hand whatever in the peer review process. They are not
even aware of the submission's existence until after the peer review
process has taken place, and I send the reviewed, edited submission to
the publisher for typesetting and copyediting.
If what Peter means by saying that publishers bear the costs for peer
review is that they pay an editor for managing it, so be it, but that is
not what he actually said. And all costs apart from paying the editor
(office space, mailing, the reviewer's time and expertise, etc.) are
typically borne by others.
Regards,
--
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
Canada
416-736-5115 ex. 66164
christo_at_yorku.ca
http://www.yorku.ca/christo
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