We are comparing apples and oranges here. The society journals that Peter
Banks is talking about are medium-sized ones - neither those belonging to
the American Chemical Society, one of the most hawkish of all publishers,
nor the ones produced on a shoestring by very small societies, but the ones
in the middle. Christopher Green, on the other hand, is talking about the
tiny ones.
The possible long-term effects of green OA on these different categories
of society journals are likely to vary. But for those of us who wish
learned societies, large and small, well in the longer term, it is not too
soon to begin speculating about these issues.
Fytton Rowland, Loughborough University
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher D. Green" <christo_at_YORKU.CA>
To: <AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Philip Campbell, Editor, Nature
> Peter Banks wrote:
>
>>
>> Most society journals are not giant, do not have full time editors, but
>> instead support at considerable cost editorial offices in major
>> universities.
>>
> Most? Perhaps a few big ones. Not most by any stretch. The office space
> is often provided by the school, free of charge, and the (usually grad
> student) editorial assistant (if there is one) is paid for by the school
> as well. The editor usually paid what could only be called an
> honorarium (considering the expertise required and the amount of work
> done) and the reviewers are paid nothing whatever.
>
>> Until that fact is recognized--and OA advocates cease and desist with the
>> nonsense that peer review is free--there can be no intelligent
>> discussion of
>> OA.
>
> Who said it was free? I said the costs of peer review were mostly borne
> by others, not by the publisher.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Christopher D. Green
> Department of Psychology
> York University
> Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
> Canada
>
> 416-736-5115 ex. 66164
> christo_at_yorku.ca
> http://www.yorku.ca/christo
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Received on Fri Dec 01 2006 - 13:23:17 GMT