I support this request.
Please answer the questions.
Bernard Lang
PS
I noticed that many people on this list seem genuinely afraid of
hurting the feelings of publishers. Stevan gave me that impression in
our latest exchange, to which I stopped replying because I had the
impression that his eagerness to defend publishers (in the classical
sense) was hiding facts I did not know about.
So there was really no point in arguing.
It is funny. People seem a lot less worried when workers are laid off
than when a large corporations are pushed out because the have become
economic dinosaures. Why be so concerned with the feelings of
corporations, they have none.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 11:26:31AM +0100, Alan Story wrote:
> Michael:
>
> Instead of using emotive words like "shame" and "cynical", perhaps you might
> address the issues I have raised:
>
> a) who is actually doing the giving?
> b) the "free now, charge later" philosophy behind this scheme.
> c) use of non proprietary/open source software for accessing the materials
> d) financial assistance for academic contributors from countries of the
> South.
>
> To use your own emotive, I just don't see the "sacrifice" involved.
>
> Regards
> Alan
>
> Alan Story
> Kent Law School
> University of Kent
> Canterbury Kent U.K
> CT2 7NS.
> a.c.story_at_ukc.ac.uk
> 44 (0)1227 823316
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Kay" <kaym_at_osi.hu>
> To: "'Alan Story'" <a.c.story_at_ukc.ac.uk>;
> <AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG>
> Cc: "Istvan Rev" <revist_at_ceu.hu>; "Anna Maria Balogh" <abalogh_at_osi.hu>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: FOS Newsletter Excerpts
>
>
> > It is a shame that you should write this in such a cynical tone. Yes the
> > publishers do stand to gain in the long term, but at last they are willing
> > to "sacrifice" something at least . I have been working with them for
> some
> > time on exactly these sorts of projects and they do realise that unless
> they
> > do something to "look better" that their battle will be even harder.
> > Naturally they are more than concerned about the current debate and their
> > futures. But at the end of the day, they are now coughing with excellent
> > deals for countries that our network serves - the financially
> disadvantaged.
> > And just for the record not all publishers are inherently evil people -
> > believe it or not.
> >
> > Michael Kay
> > Director eIFL (Soros Foundation Network)
> > http://www.eifl.net
> >
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