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Begin forwarded message:
From: Stevan Harnad <harnad_at_ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: October 2, 2009 1:12:37 PM EDT (CA)
To: JISC-REPOSITORIES_at_JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Cc: AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG
Subject: Re: Parallel journals
(1) We don't need "parallel journals": we just need parallel ACCESS to the
articles in the journals that already exist.
(2) That's what green OA self-archiving of the author's final refereed,
revised draft provides.
(3) Green OA does not provide "parallel articles" either. It just provides
parallel access to the same journals.
(4) The difference between the publisher's PDF and the author's self-
archived final refereed, revised draft are completely trivial. This is not
something a researcher would worry about. Researchers are worried about
access denial, not PDF.
(5) A journal issue is just a hodge-podge of mostly unrelated articles; no
need to "reconstruct" that; open access to all the articles plus good
boolean search power is all that's needed.
(6) The PostGutenberg journal is just a peer-review service provider, for
quality assurance, plus a tag (the journal name) certifying the outcome as
having met the quality standards for which the journal has an established
track record.
(7) The rest is just the journal-tagged, peer-reviewed file, sitting safely
in the author's institutional repository (suitably backed up, mirrored,
preserved, etc.), plus central harvesters providing powerful search
capability across the entire distributed corpus.
(8) Gutenberg print editions, and even para-Gutenberg publisher-PDFs will
only last as long as there is still a user demand for them; with 100% Green
OA, I promise you that that demand will not be coming from researchers, nor
from students...
Stevan Harnad
On 2-Oct-09, at 12:50 PM, J.W.T.Smith wrote:
> Leo,
>
> You can approximate this by using Google Scholar Advanced Search. Search
> for a specific journal title and limit to a time period.
> The result of a search for articles in ?Journal of biological chemistry?
> for 2008 looks like this:
>
> http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=&as_publication=%22Journal+of+
> biological+chemistry%22&as_ylo=2008&as_yhi=2008&btnG=Search
>
> Of course the results are not clustered by issue but ranked by number of
> citations. However I am sure there are people reading this list who could
> write some code to reorder this results list and cluster by issue or page
> number range. A little more coding and maybe we could cluster by issue and
> then by page number within each issue thus giving exact copies of contents
> pages.
>
> What could we call this new form of journal, ah yes, it would be a
> ?Reconstructed Journal? :-) .
>
> John.
>
>
>
> From: Repositories discussion list
> [mailto:JISC-REPOSITORIES_at_JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of leo waaijers
> Sent: 02 October 2009 14:39
> To: JISC-REPOSITORIES_at_JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Parallel journals
>
> Hi,
>
> Today, thinking hard again about the (dis)advantages of Green OA the
> following idea flashed through my mind. Green OA leads to ?parallel
> articles?, i.e. the post prints of the pdf?s in official journals. Why not
> having ?parallel journals? as well? It?s not so difficult I think. Someone
> has to generate a list of journal titles and issues with empty article
> records. And then every repository can complete these records with the
> metadata of the post prints that they hold. Just like we created union
> catalogs in the old days.
> As I see it, the main advantage is that we can integrate the worlds of
> Gold and Green OA at journal level. Wouldn?t that be a relief to readers,
> funders and authors?
> Cheers,
> Leo.
>
Received on Tue Oct 06 2009 - 01:40:04 BST