Re: Google/Google Scholar merge?

From: Sally Morris (Morris Associates) <"Sally>
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:27:59 +0100

Puzzled by Les's posting - Google Scholar already identifies 'green' sources
of documents, doesn't it?

Sally


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-----Original Message-----
From: American Scientist Open Access Forum
[mailto:AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG] On
Behalf Of Leslie Carr
Sent: 16 October 2008 17:01
To: AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG
Subject: Re: Google/Google Scholar merge?

This may be a small change in the user interface, but it is a large
step in the convergence between "green" open access resources
(repositories) and publisher resources. Now researchers will be able
to find (together, in one place) the various for-free and for-pay
manifestations of a publication, and then they can make informed
decisions about whether the preprint, author's postprint or published
version will satisfy their requirements.

Of course, they could have done that through Google Scholar, but most
researchers aren't using Google Scholar, and they would have to use
two different services for different types of information.

--
Les Carr
On 16 Oct 2008, at 14:31, Frank McCown wrote:
> I haven't seen any formal announcements, but I think this is part of
> Google's larger strategy of merging results from multiple sources
> (news, images, etc.) into a single results page, what they call
> universal search.
>
> http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/universalsearch_20070516.html
>
> Regards,
> Frank
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Stevan Harnad
> <amsciforum_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Leslie Carr <lac -- ecs.soton.ac.uk>
>> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:05:14 +0100
>> Subject: Google/Google Scholar merge?
>> To: JISC-REPOSITORIES -- jiscmail.ac.uk
>>
>> I was just using Google to search for items in repositories when I
>> noticed that some Google results have Google Scholar data associated
>> with them - author name, year of publication, number of citations and
>> links to the Google scholar records.
>>
>> See the following examples:
>> (EPrints Soton)
>>
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-us&
q=site%3Aeprints.soton.ac.uk+%22institutional+repositories%22&btnG=Search
>>
>> (DSpace MIT)
>>
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-us&
q=site%3Adspace.mit.edu+%22digital+preservation%22&btnG=Search
>>
>> I'm not aware of any announcements about this. Does anyone have any
>> more information?
>>
>> On closer inspection, it seems that any of the versions of a paper
>> that Google Scholar has identified will appear with the enhanced
>> information - whether in a repository or on a publisher's website or
>> an author's home page. The author names are sometimes somewhat awry -
>> you will often see authors listed as "Submission R" because the paper
>> is listed under Recent Submissions or similar.
>>
>> The vast majority of repository usage comes from Google, not Google
>> scholar, and so this development is very welcome because it allows
>> users to see some kind of scholarly perspective on top of Google's
>> (and the Web's) model of individual document resources.
>> --
>> Les Carr
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Frank McCown, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor of Computer Science
> Harding University
> http://www.harding.edu/fmccown/

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