Many books in the physical sciences are compilations of peer
reviewed articles. Perhaps we can avoid the mandates by
calling all the journals "book series"; a trivial difference
if it preserves the review process, archiving of complex
format through changing systems and responsibility on all
users to pay what they can so that the market serves them.
I'll be in Berlin and hope to see some of you; but not on a
dueling ground.
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Stevan Harnad wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Sandy Thatcher wrote:
>
> > One would think, then, that the language of the ERC statement could
> > have been
> > more precise: "peer-reviewed publications" is a general term that
> > normally
> > would be thought, in an academic context, to include all types of
> > publications.
>
> Yes, all Green OA self-archiving mandates should specify that they
> apply to articles published in peer-reviewed journals and peer-reviewed
> congress proceedings, to be clear that they do not apply to books. But
> academics know this. Books are vetted for publishability, but they are
> not peer-reviewed. In an academic CV, one does not list one's books under
> "peer-reviewed publications."
>
> Stevan Harnad
>
> > Sandy Thatcher
> >
> > > No, neither the ERC Green OA Self-Archiving Mandate nor the NIH Green
> > > OA
> > > Self-Archiving Mandate applies to books. (Nor do the RCUK mandates,
> > > nor the
> > > university and departmental mandates, nor any of the 35 mandates
> > > adopted
> > > and the 8 proposed worldwide so
> > > far:http://www.eprints.org/signup/fulllist.php.) They all apply only
> > > to
> > > peer- reviewed journal-articles.
> > >
> > > Book self-archiving cannot and should not be mandated, for the
> > > contrary of
> > > much the same reasons peer-reviewed journal articles can and should
> > > be.
> > >
> > > Stevan Harnad
> > >
> > > On 16-Jan-08, at 7:20 PM, Sandy Thatcher wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does this apply to all "publications," including books? If so,one
> > > > wonders how authors of these books will find any publishersfor
> > > > them. I certainly wouldn't invest our press's money inpublishing a
> > > > book that became available for free after sixmonths from another
> > > > source. And I would worry a great deal ifagencies like the NEH made
> > > > this a condition for all projects itfunds in the humanities, both
> > > > books and journals. A six-monthembargo might work for science; I
> > > > think it will destroypublishing in the humanities.
> > > >
> > > > Sandy Thatcher
> > > > Penn State University Press
> >
> >
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