N. Miradon <nmiradon _at_YAHOO.FR> wrote:
> Lent is a time for reflection and for self-criticism. Today, 4 March, is
> the
> second Sunday in Lent.
Oui, prenons le temps de refléchir et faisons notre auto-critique. Je
dirais donc que pour juger du progrès d'un mouvement il ne faut pas
s'arrêter au moment où on le découvre, mais il faut regarder aussi d'où
l'on vient. Voir le Timeline of the Open Access Movement de Peter Suber
à
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/timeline.htm
[Yes, let us take this time for reflection and self-analysis. To
judge the progress of a movement, one should not stop at the point
when one first discovers it, but look also at where it comes
from. See Peter Suber's Timeline of the Open Access Movement]
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/timeline.htm
> I reflect that the Open Access movement has not been idle. But I conclude
> that results have fallen very short.
>
> This Forum has been busy. In 2007, fifty three persons have already posted
> 257 messages (59.890 lines of text). In 2006 one hundred and thirty one
> people posted 869 messages (160.661 lines of text) - though 431 of those
> messages (72.719 lines) came from one person. But most of this was
> sectarian
> debate between OA-Gold-believers, and OA-Green-believers, and
> OA-other-believers. The debate failed to reach the agnostics, the don't
> knows, and the don't cares.
Pour ceux qui ne le savent pas il faut rappeler qu'Open Access Forum existe
depuis 1998. Une analyse des messages de cette liste limitée
à 2006 et 2007 ne veut pas dire grand chose. En revanche les agnostiques
touchés et convertis (peut-être grâce à cette liste) ont été nombreux
depuis 5 ans.
[The American Scientist Open Access Forum exists since Septmber 1998: An
analysis of 2006-7 messages alone does not mean much. In contrast, the
the agnostics since informed and converted (perhaps because of this Forum)
have been numerous during the course of the past 5 years).]
La preuve en est que la pétition pour le libre Accès de la Budapest Open
Access Inititative
http://www.soros.org/openaccess/ lancée en 2002,
a recueilli 4700 signatures en un an et la pétition de Bruxelles en
2007 a recueilli ce même nombre en moins d'une semaine (a dépassé 20.000
en un mois)..
[The proof is that the petition of the Budapest Open Access Initiative
http://www.soros.org/openaccess/ launched in 2002 drew 4700 signatures
in a year, whereas the Brussels EC petition in 2007 drew that many in less
than a week (and exceeded 20,000 within a month).]
> There was a Petition for guaranteed public access to publicly-funded
> research results. 1.763.995 of Europe's 1.786.971 researchers have still
> not
> signed.
>
> There was a "Communication from the European Commission to the European
> Parliament, the Council and the European Economic and Social Committee on
> Scientific Information in the Digital Age: Access, Dissemination and
> Preservation". The OA movement completely failed to comprehend the
> Commission's strategy and tactics.
>
> Therefore the following day, when the European Commission held a vast and
> expensive conference on "Scientific information in the digital age", the
> new
> and concrete results were - nothing.
>
> For the debate in the European Council, the Open Access movement has
> prepared - nothing.
>
> For the debate in the European Parliament, the Open Access movement has
> prepared - nothing.
l'Europe n'est pas la seule engagée dans la reflexion sur le Libre
Accès. La communication scientifique n'est pas du domaine exclusif de
l'Europe : elle est mondiale et il y a eu depuis longtemps, beaucoup
d'autres manifestations et beaucoup de décisions politiques dans
différents pays voir Conferences and Workshops Related to The Open
Access Movement
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/conf.htm
[Europe is not alone in contemplating OA. Research communication is not
unique to Europe: it is international, and there have been for some
time many initiatives and political decisions in many countries worldwide:
Conferences and Workshops Related to The Open
Access Movement
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/conf.htm ]
Le progrès pour l'OA même s'il est trop lent est indiscutable. Mais
pour certains le verre sera toujours à moitié vide et pour d'autres à
moitié plein.
[OA progress, even if still too slow, is undeniable. The rest is
just about whether one sees the current cup as half-empty or half-full.]
Hélène Bosc
Euroscience Member
http://www.euroscience.org/
Convenor of the workgroup on scientific publishing
http://www.euroscience.org/WGROUPS/SC_PUBLISHING/index.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "N. Miradon" <nmiradon_at_YAHOO.FR>
To: <AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:29 AM
Subject: Lentern reflections on the OA year
> Lent is a time for reflection and for self-criticism. Today, 4 March, is
> the
> second Sunday in Lent.
>
> I reflect that the Open Access movement has not been idle. But I conclude
> that results have fallen very short.
>
> This Forum has been busy. In 2007, fifty three persons have already posted
> 257 messages (59.890 lines of text). In 2006 one hundred and thirty one
> people posted 869 messages (160.661 lines of text) - though 431 of those
> messages (72.719 lines) came from one person. But most of this was
> sectarian
> debate between OA-Gold-believers, and OA-Green-believers, and
> OA-other-believers. The debate failed to reach the agnostics, the don't
> knows, and the don't cares.
>
> There was a Petition for guaranteed public access to publicly-funded
> research results. 1.763.995 of Europe's 1.786.971 researchers have still
> not
> signed.
>
> There was a "Communication from the European Commission to the European
> Parliament, the Council and the European Economic and Social Committee on
> Scientific Information in the Digital Age: Access, Dissemination and
> Preservation". The OA movement completely failed to comprehend the
> Commission's strategy and tactics.
>
> Therefore the following day, when the European Commission held a vast and
> expensive conference on "Scientific information in the digital age", the
> new
> and concrete results were - nothing.
>
> For the debate in the European Council, the Open Access movement has
> prepared - nothing.
>
> For the debate in the European Parliament, the Open Access movement has
> prepared - nothing.
>
> Sadly
>
> N. Miradon
>
>
Received on Mon Mar 05 2007 - 17:35:33 GMT