Re: Harold Varmus: "Self-Archiving is Not Open Access"

From: (wrong string) édon Jean-Claude <jean.claude.guedon_at_UMONTREAL.CA>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:42:39 -0400

Thank you, David. This empirically supports my point. It also underscores the fact that some publishers are eager to pass themselves off for green while doing it in such a way as to neutralize the positive consequences of the self-archiving road. Obviously, this does not demean the green road at all, but it points to the subtle obstacles laid in its way by devious publishers. As I have pointed out before, making citations difficult is another way to subvert the objectives of self-archiving. In short, both the gold and green roads have difficulties to overcome, some engineered by some publishers in the latter case. Let us simply acknowledge the fact and push forward with both roads and with all the means possible.

Best,

jcg


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De: American Scientist Open Access Forum de la part de David Goodman
Date: jeu. 08/06/2006 15:07
À: AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG
Objet : Re: RE : Harold Varmus: "Self-Archiving is Not Open Access"
 
I ask for information about the accessibility of documents maintained on
individual faculty home pages, both to OAI-PMH and to
such engines as google and scirus. (I do not refer to the policy of
a crawler to examine or not examine a site, but to policies set
by the site, to keep such crawlers out, presumably as an attempt
to reduce the spam received by the faculty.)

I have sometimes found such sites inaccessible, though
the document was present and could be found manually
once that home page was located. I do not know whether
this is frequent, or rare, as, I have not kept a tally, but this is the list
to look for anyone who has been doing so.

Especially because some supposedly green OA journals restrict the author's posting
to such an individual site, It would be good to know whether this is indeed
>a minor problem.

Dr. David Goodman
Palmer School of Library and Information Science
Long Island University
and formerly
Princeton University Library

dgoodman_at_princeton.edu

----- Original Message -----
From: Guédon Jean-Claude <jean.claude.guedon_at_UMONTREAL.CA>
Date: Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:35 pm
Subject: [AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM] RE : Harold Varmus: "Self-Archiving is Not Open Access"
To: AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG

...
>
> This said, if people were to self-archive in small, isolated, web
> sites that do not obey OAI-PMH, it would be pretty invisible and,
> as such, may not really qualify as OA. In this situation, venue
> could indeed be relevant, but only in that situation.
....
> And it is a
> very minor problem anyway.
>
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