Re: Australian Public Funding of Journals

From: Arthur Sale <ahjs_at_ozemail.com.au>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:35:40 +1000

Brian

 

With respect, I wasn&#8217;t out to lunch. What we are writing about is
how many journals in any country are subsidized by government funds. We
are not talking about free papers provided by researchers in their
output, nor free services provided by editors and referees, nor
commercial arms of public enterprises fully funded by activity.

 

All CSIRO publications are operated as business enterprises and are not
supported by public funds, unless you know something I don&#8217;t. The
CSIRO website says and I quote (underlines mine): &#8220;CSIRO PUBLISHING
is an autonomous business unit within Australia´s Commonwealth Scientific
and Industrial Research Organisation, CSIRO.&#8221; Translated into
English, this says that CSIRO Publishing is self-funding on a commercial
basis.

 

Did you note that CSIRO has no interest in cutting edge ICT?

 

Arthur

 


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From: American Scientist Open Access Forum
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Behalf Of Brian Lynch
Sent: Monday, 19 September 2005 09:11
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Subject: Re: Australian Public Funding of Journals

 

Arthur
With respect, you are "out to lunch" in your statement about CSIRO
below

 How about CSIRO. Is it purely commercial?

 

 

No it draws on both public and commercial funds, but it only publishes

in-house serials, with no real scholarly standing.

 

See the following from their home page:



CSIRO PUBLISHING

CSIRO PUBLISHING operates as an independent science and technology
publisher with a global reputation for quality products and services. Our
internationally recognised publishing programme covers a wide range of
scientific disciplines, including agriculture, the plant and animal
sciences, and environmental management.

Our product range includes journals, books, magazines and CD-ROMs. We
publish content in print and online, and our editorial standards and
production methods are at the forefront of e-publishing standards. We are
also able to offer the services of our award-winning multimedia group to
external clients.

CSIRO PUBLISHING is an autonomous business unit within Australia´s
Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation, CSIRO.

The Australian Journal of Chemistry [AJC] has an excellent international
reputation!

Brian Lynch
[a sometime author of papers in AJC in the 50s and 60s]

Brian M. Lynch, M. Sc., Ph.D. [Melbourne], FCIC
Senior Research Professor
Department of Chemistry, St. Francis Xavier University
Antigonish, Nova Scotia B2G 2W5, Canada
Tel: 902-867-3992 [office]; 902-867-0450 [cellphone: preferred]
Fax: 902-867-2414

Arthur Sale wrote:

 Jean-Claude

 

Best wishes for your Brazil trip.  I've interspersed replies to your recent

reply to a reply to ...

 

Arthur Sale

Professor of Computing (Research)

University of Tasmania

 

  

 -----Original Message-----

 

   

  

 

 

 How about CSIRO. Is it purely commercial?

   

  

No it draws on both public and commercial funds, but it only publishes

in-house serials, with no real scholarly standing. So does the telco Telstra

(49% in private ownership, 51% government, soon to change to 100:0%).

 

 

 
Received on Mon Sep 19 2005 - 01:52:49 BST