Topic Thread Re-directed from "Jan Velterop and Springer" to:
"Free Access vs. Open Access" (began August 2003)
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Georg Botz wrote:
> May I add a little correction to Stevan's comment:
>
> Articles for which authors pay 3000 USD via "Open Choice" are *not* OA, but
> can only be accessed without charge from the SpringerLink website.
This is merely re-invoking the non-distinction between "free" and "open" access.
What the research world wants and needs is:
FREE, IMMEDIATE, PERMANENT ACCESS TO REFEREED-ARTICLE FULL-TEXTS ONLINE
That is what it's all about. Once we have that, the rest comes with the territory.
> Or, in Springer's own words:
> "Copying, reproducing, distributing, or posting of the publisher's version
> of the article on a third party server is not permitted."
> (Quoted from "Open Choice Details" cf. www.springeronline.com/openchoice)
Why does anyone need to copy, reproduce, (re-)distribute or (re-)post the
the article on a third part server when the full text is freely, immediately and
permanently accessible on SpringerLink? All one need copy, reproduce, distribute
or post is the *URL*! The rest comes with the territory.
> But nevertheless, Springer is a "green" publisher.
It is indeed: as verdant as one could possibly wish. But that has nothing to do
with Springer's Open Choice option, which is not about author self-archiving at
all, and actually makes Springer semi-gold (gold being an OA publisher).
Springer's squeeky-clean green status comes from its author self-archiving
policy, which concerns authors self-posting their refereed final drafts
on their own (second party) institutional servers. This too does not entail
third-party re-publishing rights, and why should it? The full text already comes
with the territory (the web), free for all.
OA is still only at about 15% today. Please, let us not fuss about things
we don't need when we still don't have what we want, and is 100% within our
reach!
Stevan Harnad
> ----
> > > If I understand correctly, authors will still need to self-archive
> > > their own final copy with Open Choice. This being the case - and there
> > > being no difference in access - why would authors not save some money,
> > > and simply self-archive?...
> >
> > No, this is incorrect. For authors who elect to pay for Open Choice, Springer
> > archives the official published version of their article for them, in
> > the Open Access sector of its own Archive, making the article OA webwide via
> > SpringerLink, the publisher's online service.
> >
> > > ...a policy that asks authors to pay to give the entire world free access,
> > > yet denies authors the right to deposit a copy in the repository of
> > > their choice, is a tad absurd, isn't it?
> >
> > Springer does not deny authors the right to self-archive their own final
> > drafts, whether or not they opt for Open Choice. Springer journals are
> > among the over 90% of journals that have a "green" self-archiving policy.
> >
> > http://romeo.eprints.org/search.php?t=springer
> >
> > Open Choice is exactly what it says it is: a choice, i.e., an
> > extra option.
> > All Springer authors can choose to self-archive their final drafts without
> > choosing to pay for Open Choice.
> >
> > Stevan Harnad
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