> On Fri 19 November 2004 Leslie Chan wrote:
>
> I imagine it would be relatively simple for Google to add a filter or
> option to display only OA articles in the search results. That would
> really tip the scale.
Excuse me, but how does limiting Google to only OA articles provide
more access??
Is the goal the triumph of OA or getting info to people who want it
--chuck casey
[MODERATOR'S NOTE: To minimize traffic I will reply pre-emptively
here: Leslie Chan is sensibly suggesting above that now that
http://scholar.google.com is already selectively filtering
(optionally!) for the scholarly content of google-space (so scholarly
content need not compete with and be buried amidst commercial, erotic,
or infotainment content), it would be a good idea to further filter
(optionally!) for OA content within the scholarly content: OA means
the full-text is accessible online for free. As Leslie Carr already
noted still earlier, below, finding existing OA content does not
increase OA content; it just makes it more visible and searchable. But
demonstrating how much more visible, searchable, accessible and usable
OA content can be will then serve as a further incentive for its
author/users to provide more of it (preferably by self-archiving their
own articles in their own institutional OAI-compliant OA web archives
-- but by at least self-archiving them on the web in any case). S.H.]
>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, Leslie Carr wrote:
>>
>>> Google's new... http:///scholar.google.com [delivers]... a search
>>> service... [that is selective for] scholarly and scientific resources...
>>> from all web sites... across the complete spectrum of scholarly enquiry...
>>> [plus] a basic level of citation analysis..
>>
>> An extremely valuable and welcome new service (and about time!):
>>
>> "Re: proposed collaboration: google + open citation linking" (2001)
>> http://www.openarchives.org/pipermail/oai-general/2001-June/000035.html
>>
>>> [But] Google is not offering increased Open Access, just improved resource
>>> discovery of current ad-hoc OA. To advance we still need to offer carrot
>>> and stick, policies and mandates...
>>>
>>> [The] Google scholarly search engine is a welcome addition to
>>> the arsenal of services that researchers use to mine the literature -
>>> but it is still OA Institutional Repositories that provide the best
>>> chance of getting readable copies of those papers into Google!
>>
>> In other words, please don't imagine that Google will now provide OA
>> full-texts for you! Google is now selectively gathering and making them
>> visible, and even providing some citation impact counts -- but it can
>> only do that with those full-texts that have been made OA by putting
>> them on the Web!
>>
>> Our estimates across disciplines indicate that currently at most only 20%
>> of the journal articles being published today are being made OA:
>>
>> http://citebase.eprints.org/isi_study/
>> http://www.crsc.uqam.ca/lab/chawki/ch.htm
>> http://opcit.eprints.org/oacitation-biblio.html
>>
>> This wonderful new service from google should (as Les Carr
>>indicates) be taken
>> as yet another strong incentive for authors' institutions and
>>research funders
>> to mandate and reward OA -- and authors to do -- self-archiving of the
>> remaining 80%!
>>
>> "What Provosts Need to Mandate" (2003)
>> "http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/3420.html"
>>
>> "University policy mandating self-archiving of research output" (2004)
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/3438.html
>>
>> "Mandating OA around the corner?"
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/3829.html
>>
>> "Guide for the Perplexed: Re: UK Select Committee Inquiry"
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/4131.html
>>
>> "Critique of PSP/AAP Critique of NIH Proposal"
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/4146.html
>>
>> "Critique of STM Critique of NIH Proposal"
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/4174.html
>>
>> Stevan Harnad
>>
>> Relevant Prior Amsci Forum Topic Threads:
>>
>> "Citation-Linking" (1999)
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0284.html
>>
>> "Economic effects of link-based search engines on e-journals" (2000)
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0894.html
>>
>> "A Search Engine for Searching Across Distributed Eprint Archives"
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0927.html
>>
>> "Testing the citation-ranking search engine: Citebase" (2002)
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/2121.html
>>
>> "Scientometric OAI Search Engines"
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/2237.html
>>
>> "Need for systematic scientometric analyses of open-access data"
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/2521.html
>>
>> "How to compare research impact of toll- vs. open-access research" (2003)
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/2858.html
> >
>> "Measuring cumulating research impact loss across fields and time"
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/3212.html
>>
>> "Do Open-Access Articles Have a Greater Research Impact?"
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/3975.html
>>
>> "Early Download Impact Predicts Later Citation Impact"
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/3950.html
>>
>> "Self-Archiving Incentives: Download Impact Counts"
>> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/4085.html
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