On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Chris Armstrong wrote:
> If the subversive proposal takes hold,
> journal prices will be forced up - in the short term, at
> least. In the long term, IF it worries them, the
> publishers can lobby for litigation outside of the
> copyright laws, I suppose. Perhaps something to do with
> fair trading? And I bet the universities cave in first!
Speaking practically, and historically, this worry belongs on the
"Zeno's Paralysis" list:
8. Prima-Facie FaQs for Overcoming Zeno's Paralysis
"I worry about self-archiving because...":
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Tp/resolution.htm#8
The conceptual possibility you mention is not at all something that should be
holding back either authors or their universities from vigorously
self-archiving immediately.
10. Copyright
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Tp/resolution.htm#10.Copyright
Moreover, all the evidence is that self-archiving will have just the
opposite effect, namely, to update journal copyright policy so as to
bring it in line with what is incontestably in the best interests of
researchers, their institutions, and research itself (hence of all
of society).
This has been precisely the outcome of the most successful
self-archiving initiative so far, that of the physicists. See the
new copyright policy of the publisher of the most prestigious
journals in physics, the American Physical Society:
Revised APS copyright form
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0746.html
Here are further topic threads (some of them quite extensive) in this
Forum's Archive:
Copyright Tribunal
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0762.html
Authors "Victorious" in UnCover Copyright Suit
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0768.html
Science 4 September on Copyright
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0085.html
Chron. High. Ed. 18 September on Cal Tech & Copyright
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0103.html
Academic Press Journal Article Copyright Policy
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0269.html
Elsevier Science Policy on Public Web Archiving Needs Re-Thinking
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0136.html
Elsevier's ChemWeb Preprint Archive
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0817.html
Interview with Elsevier Science
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/1604.html
Copyright FAQ for refereed journal authors
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0416.html
The Copyright Non-Problem and Self-Archiving
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0449.html
Copyright, Embargo, and the Ingelfinger Rule
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0496.html
BioMed Central and new publishing models
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0522.html
Legal ways around copyright for one's own giveaway texts
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0541.html
Journal Publisher Copyright Assignment Policies
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0930.html
PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/1309.html
Inventory of Publishers' Copyright Policies?
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/1535.html
Stevan Harnad
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