david
i will try to be clear(as i believe i have been--for example the great
Franz Ingelfinger is long gone and bad laws can be broken or challenged and
changed))
re'your 1. of course paper journals can become paper and web or web only
but there is a major cultural and procedural and economic transition
required and many humans(and organizations)wed to paper and its
processes(and revenue) have had great difficluty with such a full transition
perhaps they will improve over time if proper incentives could be in
place
2. label and reputation can transfer to the web or can become deserved by
track records for web originals over time..
Professional editing and peer review can be applied in many web constructs
in addition to "traditional" web journals
For example www.CBSHealthwatch.com uses professional editors and high
quality named peer reviewers as a routine FOR CONSUMER information yet
rarely has there been greater opportunity to create and do things well or
to downgrade, unfortunately.
hope this exchange helps some we have a wonderful new medium to use well
for fabulous activities in the public interest
george
-----Original Message-----
From: David Goodman [mailto:dgoodman_at_PRINCETON.EDU]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:22 PM
To: AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG
Subject: Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research
George, Your explanation for your position leaves me with 2 qys:
1. Cannot these values also be achieved by the conversion of printed
journals to web only journals? Do we really need additional journals?
2. But this contradicts your first paragraph; the editing and peer
review can be applied in many ways on the net, including the
conventional one you use in your own Medscape titles.
Label and reputation will work just as well on the net.
George Lundberg wrote:
...
The
> great values of electronic publishing can be realized without diminishing
> quality by simply creating many fully electronic journals that are edited
> professionally and follow the peer review process diligently and are made
> available on the internet free of charge to all. Anyone who wishes to read
> the information on a printed page can furnish their own paper. Some of
you
> presumably know that at www.medscape.com we have been doing this now for
two
> years with www.medgenmed.com and a developing family of eJournals that
> complement our many other forms of electronic information, all made freely
> available very rapidly to internet users.
...
> But i believe readers of biomedical information have a
> right to be able to reasonably trust at least some sources of such
> information and be able to determine by label and reputation what has a
good
> chance of being trustworthy because the authors, peer reviewers, editors,
> and publishers followed accepted time-tested rules.
> george lundberg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Goodman [mailto:dgoodman_at_PRINCETON.EDU]
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:43 AM
> To: AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG
> Subject: Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research
>
> This is a very clear statement of exactly the policy that Steve and so
> many of us are urging be changed universally.
>
> George Lundberg wrote:
> >
> > In the document entitled Uniform Requirements for Manuscripts
Submitted
> to
> > Medical Journals published by the International Committee of Medical
> > Journal Editors it is stated that "....electronic publication is
> > publication....." Most such journals do not wish to consider for
> > publication a paper that has already been published. Thus an author can
> > choose the initial method of distribution of written work once only.
> > george lundberg
>
> -
>
--
David Goodman
Biology Librarian
and Co-chair, Electronic Journals Task force
Princeton University Library
Princeton, NJ 08544-0001
phone: 609-258-3235
fax: 609-258-2627
e-mail: dgoodman_at_princeton.edu
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